48 Elizabeth II, A.D. 1999, Canada

Journals of the Senate

2nd Session, 36th Parliament

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Issue 13

Tuesday, November 30, 1999
2:00 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker

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The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Andreychuk, Atkins, Austin, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Boudreau, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Doody, Eyton, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Fraser, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lawson, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Meighen, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Perry (Poirier), Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Roberge, Robertson, Robichaud, (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud, (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, St. Germain, Sibbeston, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Wilson,

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Andreychuk, *Angus, Atkins, Austin, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Boudreau, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Doody, Eyton, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Fraser, *Furey, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lawson, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Meighen, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Perry (Poirier), Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Roberge, Robertson, Robichaud, (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud, (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, St. Germain, Sibbeston, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Wilson, ,

PRAYERS

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Kirby tabled the following (Sessional Paper No. 2/36-173S):

TUESDAY, November 30, 1999

The Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology has the honour to table its

FIRST REPORT

Your Committee, which was authorized by the Senate to incur expenses for the purpose of its examination and consideration of such legislation and other matters as were referred to it, reports, pursuant to Rule 104, that the expenses incurred by the Committee during the First Session of the Thirty-sixth Parliament are as follow:

With respect to its examination and consideration of legislation:

 

Professional and Other Services	$ 13,640.04
Transportation and Communications	620.00
All Other Expenditures	574.32
Witness Expenses	34,913.82
TOTAL	$ 49,748.18

With respect to a special study on Social Cohesion:

Professional and Other Services	$ 63,175.77
Transportation and Communications	-
All Other Expenditures	-
Witness Expenses	18,053.11
TOTAL	$ 81,228.88

With respect to a special study by the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs to examine and report on the state of health care for war veterans and service men and women:

Professional and Other Services	$ 6,089.85
Transportation and Communications	49,183.43
All Other Expenditures	315.00
Witness Expenses	2,603.14
TOTAL	$ 58,191.42

With respect to a special study by the Subcommittee on Veteran Affairs to examine and report on the future of the Canadian War Museum:

 

Professional and Other Services	$ 2,500.00
Transportation and Communications	-
All Other Expenditures	-
Witness Expenses	18,012.85
TOTAL	$ 20,512.85

Your Committee heard from 216 witnesses, held 73 meetings and issued 23 reports in the last session, during which it reviewed ten Bills (C-19, C-61, C-64, C-66, C-208, S-8, S-10, S-13, S-20 and S-30).

Your Committee presented an Interim Report on the Federal Child Support Guidelines in June 1998 including 12 recommendations. As well, your Committee presented its Final Report on Social Cohesion in June 1999.

Your Committee also created a Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs to examine and report on the state of health care in Canada concerning veterans of war and Canadian service persons, and to examine and report on the future of the Canadian War Museum, hearing from a total of 93 witnesses over 22 meetings.

The Interim Report of the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs entitled: "The State of Health Care for War Veterans and Service Men & Women - First Report: Long-term care, standards of care and federal-provincial relations" presented its findings, together with 16 recommendations.

The Final Report of the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs entitled: "Raising the Bar: Creating a New Standard in Veterans Health Care" presented its findings, together with 68 recommendations.

The Interim Report of the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs entitled: "Guarding History" presented its findings together with 12 recommendations.

Respectfully submitted,

MICHAEL KIRBY

Chair

The Honourable Senator Milne, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, presented its Second Report (Bill C-7, An Act to amend the Criminal Records Act and to amend another Act in consequence) with amendments.

(The Report is printed as an Appendix)

The Honourable Senator Milne moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mahovlich, that the Report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Government Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Hays moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Maheu:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday, December 1, 1999, at 1:30 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Tabling of Reports from Inter-Parliamentary Delegations

The Honourable Senator Grafstein tabled the following:

Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association concerning its participation at the Eighth Annual Session of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe Parliamentary Assembly (OSCE PA), held in St. Petersburg, Russia, from July 6 to 10, 1999. -Sessional Paper No. 2/36-174.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming the debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Kroft, seconded by the Honourable Senator Furey:

That the following Address be presented to Her Excellency the Governor General of Canada:

To Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.

MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the Senate of Canada in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Atkins moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator DeWare, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Orders No. 1 to 8 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Consideration of the Second Report of the Standing Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders (Moravian Church in America), presented in the Senate on November 24, 1999.

The Honourable Senator Austin, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Grafstein, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Consideration of the Third Report of the Standing Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders (Senator Kinsella's Question of Privilege), presented in the Senate on November 24, 1999.

After debate, Further debate on consideration of the Report was adjourned until the next sitting in the name of the Honourable Senator Austin, P.C. Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other

Orders No. 8, 9, 7, 6, and 2 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

List of various international agreements which entered into force for Canada during 1991 and 1992 (together with copies of the Agreements).-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-164.

Report of the Administrator of the Ship-source Oil Pollution Fund for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Act to amend the Canada Shipping Act and to amend the Arctic Waters Pollution Prevention Act and the Oil and Gas Production and Conservation Act in consequence thereof, R.S.C. 1985, c. 6 (3rd Supp.), s. 84.-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-165.

Report by the Minister of Canadian Heritage on official languages activities for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Official Languages Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. 31 (4th Supp.), s. 44.-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-166.

Report of the Correctional Investigator for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, S.C. 1992, c. 20, s. 192.-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-167.

Lists of various international agreements which entered into force for Canada during 1989 and 1990 (together with copies of the Agreements).-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-168.

Statement on the Operations of the Returned Soldiers' Insurance Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Act to amend the Returned Soldiers' Insurance Act, S.C. 1951, c. 59, s. 12.-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-169.

Statement on the Operations of the Veterans Insurance Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Veterans Insurance Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. V-3, sbs. 18(2).-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-170.

Summary of the Capital Budget Amendment for 1999-2000 of the Canada Post Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -Sessional Paper No. 2/36-171.

Report of the British Columbia Treaty Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the British Columbia Treaty Commission Act, S.C. 1995, c. 45, sbs. 21(3). -Sessional Paper No. 2/36-172.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Hays moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercier:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The name of the Honourable Senator Maheu substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Taylor (November 24).

The name of the Honourable Senator Pépin substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Maheu (November 25).

The name of the Honourable Senator Finestone substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Fairbairn (November 26).

The names of the Honourable Senators Chalifoux and Pépin substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Pépin and Chalifoux (November 29).

Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration

The name of the Honourable Senator Gill substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Poulin (November 24).

The name of the Honourable Senator Poulin substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Gill (November 29).

Standing Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders

The names of the Honourable Senators Bacon, Corbin and Pépin substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Perry (Poirier), Bacon and Robichaud (Saint-Louis-de-Kent) (November 29).

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce

The name of the Honourable Senator Joyal substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Mahovlich (November 29).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The names of the Honourable Senators Kirby and Poulin substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Cook and Taylor (November 29).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The name of the Honourable Senator Perry (Poirier) removed from the membership (November 29).

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